[A*UG] Meeting Anyone

[Chris Tooley]

I am a very strong proponent of Asterisk and I am very willing to admit it's
limitations and problems. However, a lot of the things that people bitch
about in Asterisk are things that have been addressed. I'm happy to discuss
actual issues that Asterisk has if you'd like to though. I'm even perfectly
happy to hear how something else handles the issues.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Brett Nemeroff <brett-aaug at nemeroff.com>wrote:

> Hi Mark,I'd like to start out by throwing out a controversial remark.
> Don't take this the wrong way, perhaps it can help in addressing your
> concerns.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't me who bad mouthed asterisk. After all
> there is a ton wrong with it. There are, as you say, competing solutions
> that handle much of what asterisk does far better. That of course, is my
> opinion.
>
> Now I feel that I know VoIP pretty well. Furthermore I think I know
> asterisk and it's competing solutions pretty well. That being said, I think
> it's fair to address what you don't like about asterisk and how competing
> solutions compare. If I say, "Asterisk isn't any good because there is no
> way to build in redundancy", then someone who knows otherwise should chime
> in with their experiences. If it's determined that Asterisk can't do what
> competing solutions can, then I'd say that's a worthwhile discussion as
> well.
>
> As much as it's an "Asterisk Users" discussion group, I think it makes us
> all more versed in the product and the technology in general in knowing
> exactly where Asterisk fits in with BOTH competing and complementary
> solutions.
>
> The problem arises from people who take criticism of Asterisk the wrong
> way, or express blatant generalizations like "Asterisk sucks". I think it's
> totally acceptable, and even welcomed to discuss what's wrong with asterisk
> and how competing solutions address similar situations better. In discussing
> this we can either learn to develop with asterisk in new and interesting
> ways, or learn about other technologies that complement or otherwise replace
> asterisk. Which I think is perfectly acceptable.
>
> All in all, I see the group about Asterisk. However, I see all community
> participation in such technologies really being about mastery of the
> technology and shouldn't be so limited to ONLY what you love about
> Asterisk.
>
> That's my *opinion*. :)
>
> Unrelated side note: Can we set up a wiki for the group? I'd like to see a
> list of knowledgeable asterisk consultants in the area.
>
> Thanks!
> -Brett
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Mark Barry <mark at exabar.com> wrote:
>
>> Jim and All,
>>
>> I would like to see this group be active and constructive. The problem the
>> last time that someone tried to get the group going was that there were at
>> least a couple of people who wanted to "bad mouth" everything Asterisk. They
>> were apparently trying to support a competing solution.  Nobody wants to be
>> part of a group like this if it is just going to be infighting.
>>
>> If the group had some very basic rules, it might correct this problem.
>> There are many other very good Asterisk groups around the country that it
>> could be modeled after.
>>
>> I am putting this out there as food for thought and looking for opinions
>> of others.
>> Lets get this group started again in a way that it can be sustained and
>> people will want to participate and present.
>>
>> Mark Barry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jim Freeze <asterisk at freeze.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Brett and I were talking and thought it was high time we have a
>>> meeting before this group totally dies on the vine.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have some topics they would like to speak on or have
>>> someone speak on?
>>>
>>> I can talk about my strategy to deploy asterisk phone systems to
>>> dental and medical offices.
>>>
>>> Anyone else?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Freeze
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